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Quick attack

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:30 pm
by cyanide_addict
Would it be possible to add quick attack? Like giving a quick troath stab with a dagger with succes depending on stealth and dexterity(chances to be saw giving the hit and touching the target critical spot)

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 8:14 am
by Harpuea
You are asking for daggers and knives animation, which is not implemented yet. However, it is already possible to do a lightning speed attack with the modding tools given with the game. Like an Iai with a Katana. An Iai is a fast draw cut. I will post my mod later when I feel comfortable with it.

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2013 11:55 pm
by cyanide_addict
i meant for assasination,like walking to your target in a,lets say a shop,and give it quick stab in the throat with a dagger,with success depending on stealth(chance of being caught or saw) and dexterity(chance to hit).

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:22 pm
by Tolwrath
The problem with a frontal "quick stab" is not only the chance of being blocked/dodged, but the blood spray as well. This is especially a problem when striking the neck. A stealth execution from behind offers a much better chance to avoid detection and incriminating blood spray. However, most games will give you a bonus for any attack that breaks your stealth. With some liberty, you could stretch this into a "bonus damage against unaware targets" mechanic. Going by those mechanics, if you couldn't sneak behind someone to execute them, you could get up close and give a surprise attack for bonus damage. You might also need an "alarm shout" rule, something like... "a target requires 2 seconds in combat before shouting an alert to anyone nearby. If they die within these 2 seconds, the shout does not succeed and nearby allies not are alerted."

Sort of like what you wanted?

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 9:39 pm
by cyanide_addict
Not exactly what i meant,the alert idea is great tough.I am trying to find a way to assasinate in public without being saw.Like i said about grabbing in another post

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2013 9:43 pm
by Tolwrath
cyanide_addict wrote:Not exactly what i meant,the alert idea is great tough.I am trying to find a way to assasinate in public without being saw.Like i said about grabbing in another post
Oh so you mean like in Assassin's Creed, how you can walk up to someone and stab them with a hidden hand dagger, then walk away?

I think that's just as much about concealing your weapon as it is about being quick. There's still the problem of blood though, depending on where you stab. You might be better off using poisons in various ways. Like a thin needle instead of stabbing them with an actual weapon. If you're good, they might not even notice they were poked.

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 4:14 am
by cyanide_addict
THATS what i meant.I also love the poison idea

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2013 5:18 pm
by Tolwrath
cyanide_addict wrote:THATS what i meant.I also love the poison idea
Another example would be Planescape Torment. In the starting area (no, I sadly never beat it, I accidentally sold my prybar) if you have high enough dexterity, one of your dialog options is to quickly reach out and snap someone's neck.

Thinking about it: a bare handed quick attack would prevent bloodspray. And even with a dagger strike, it could be possible to use your free hand to cover their mouth or squeeze their throat so they can't scream in the scant few seconds of life they have left.

Dear God, I'm becoming creepy. I'm putting way too much thought into killing people silently.

Re: Quick attack

Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2013 12:12 am
by cyanide_addict
Tolwrath wrote:
cyanide_addict wrote:THATS what i meant.I also love the poison idea
Another example would be Planescape Torment. In the starting area (no, I sadly never beat it, I accidentally sold my prybar) if you have high enough dexterity, one of your dialog options is to quickly reach out and snap someone's neck.

Thinking about it: a bare handed quick attack would prevent bloodspray. And even with a dagger strike, it could be possible to use your free hand to cover their mouth or squeeze their throat so they can't scream in the scant few seconds of life they have left.

Dear God, I'm becoming creepy. I'm putting way too much thought into killing people silently.
hoo your not alone.