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Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:20 am
by Elthedark
So im really enjoying the new update so far, but can anyone tell me where the weapons go when you craft them. My guys have made a ton of them so far but i cant seem to find any of the weapons that have been made
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:03 am
by hypekillah
Do you have a weapon stand? maby they go there? i wouldnt know. steam hadnt updated the game when i lauched it yeasterday. anyone know what delay steam has on updates?
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:10 am
by alek4ever
It is bugged, so you have to have the smithing output window open when he finishes the weapon, otherwise the weapon vanishes. Oh and queing them will also make them vanish.
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:20 am
by Elthedark
ahh ok then thats what it is. i queue a bunch up and walked away so both my smiths have weapon smithing skill up to 60ish now but i have no weapons

Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 8:37 am
by Enth
Have you tested it with a new map and importing your squad into it? It might help...
Going to try that myself this week...load up all my guys with building materials prior to the migration then import them to a new map so I can start a fresh city in a more...defendable... area of the map.
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:58 pm
by gamerphate
Yeah you don't have to actually make weapons to get the skill, you just have to be using the object.
I pretty much have a large outpost full of the small crafting stations, and got a few training up.
Problem I am having right now is that once you get high enough, some weapons require you to use steel bars. And once this happens, you will forever be required to have steel bars to keep making weapons. I even tried deleting the station and rebuilding it, and the ore section is still gone, replaced by the steel bar.
Now the costs of the steel bar is FINE! It is the supply that has me huffing. I can only get 2 to 4 every 20 mins or so. This pretty much slows down the ability to make weapons to a near halt. Now I am sure Chris is working on this.. but this and the other bug with the swords disappearing are the only two issues with this update. And they are both workaroundable, so we can handle mushing through it for a few days while Chris gets it sorted. Chances are it is a simple missed step or something and can be solved in a good turn around time.
But ultimately, I FREAKING LOVE THIS UPDATE! I was on it from the second it went live until like 3AM last night and I STILL didn't research everything! That is a huge update folks!
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:12 pm
by Njetter
Yeah had the same issue of weapons vanishing and i have four weapons stands, other than that not much problems with this update. Just saw couple holy empire squads with half having weapons half not having weapons. So those without weapons just run away from me and when i drop a weapon on the ground they'll come running to pick it up and start fighting and die in vain.
Lot's of stuff to research which is nice.
And i did import to new game before i started making my base so can't be that. It being a bugged old save or so.
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 2:34 am
by Enth
Also had another question...At what point in the research chain is there a building to convert Iron Ore into Steel Bars? I'm in the middle of researching Level 6, and have researched everything below, and do not see a build option for a Smelter.
By the way, a personal note to Chris_The_Great:
PLEASE MAKE THE TECH LEVELS GO ALL THE WAY TO ELEVEN!
Thank you.

Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:04 am
by Nesterus
I do kinda think its a bit funny to have implemented full weapon crafting without implementing a way to make the steel bars required for the higher levels. hahah jokes on us
I guess everyone is doing like I am doing and keeping guys posted near the item trader that sells a steel bar or 2 every 20 minutes
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 3:00 pm
by Njetter
Enth wrote:Also had another question...At what point in the research chain is there a building to convert Iron Ore into Steel Bars? I'm in the middle of researching Level 6, and have researched everything below, and do not see a build option for a Smelter.
By the way, a personal note to Chris_The_Great:
PLEASE MAKE THE TECH LEVELS GO ALL THE WAY TO ELEVEN!
Thank you.

Only way to get steel atm is to buy it from the traders around the world.
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:16 pm
by UndefinedM
so when does the switch from raw to steel happens? i'm working my way to level 5 now waiting to craft anything until i'm done with the researching but i'd like to stop before traders become vital with the steel bars
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:41 pm
by dalewarrior
UndefinedM wrote:so when does the switch from raw to steel happens? i'm working my way to level 5 now waiting to craft anything until i'm done with the researching but i'd like to stop before traders become vital with the steel bars
I think the best weapons you can currently craft without going to merchants are the industrial 8 set or at the very least there the best you can construct on the mk2 workbench
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2013 10:12 pm
by Fulgore
The switch to Bench III is for Catan 4 and up - Think it's tech 7.
To creater the higher tiers you need a Weapon Smithing Bench III, which requires steel bars (for ALL weapons - Chris probably haven't made a way to differentiate WHAT you build, when it comes to required materials, yet). You can either buy them from traders in the towns, or BETTER.
Use my mod, that puts in some working buildings + research to create steel bars

Check the modding sub-forum.
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:27 am
by UndefinedM
so wait, can't i just use a weapon bench 2 to avoid having to use steel bars?
Re: Weapon Smithing
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2013 12:52 am
by dalewarrior
nope the smite just says "i cant craft that with this quality of workbench"