Police won't Protect me

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killerx243
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Sun Aug 11, 2013 5:31 pm

I started with holy sword and even though none of my people have weapons on them (they are in a weapon storage) the Brink police won't attack my aggressors. Which has completely screwed me over. I've been bringing the police back to town when they wander off and get ambushed by 6 dust bandits, you would think the least they could do is help me out.

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philthymcnasty
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Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:25 pm

Yeah, i had a similar problem too, i started off as the retired captain. One time in brink, the holy empire showed up and beat the crap out of me. The police were nice enough to give me first aid though. After i got up, the holy empire ran back and re-beat the crap out of me.


Now all my weapon/combat skills are in the 50's (and so is my strength), i have the current best armor equipped on my forces, everyone has edge 5 toppers, and i raid eyesocket with my best troopers occasionally. I make sure i leave no survivors. God help them when building destruction is implemented, I will burn their cities down, sow salt on the ruins, and curse them to boot.

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Sun Aug 11, 2013 6:43 pm

philthymcnasty wrote:God help them when building destruction is implemented, I will burn their cities down, sow salt on the ruins, and curse them to boot.
You left out poison the wells. :D

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Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:25 pm

Does not being the aggressor not get the police to help you fight them off anymore?

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Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:01 pm

killerx243 wrote:Does not being the aggressor not get the police to help you fight them off anymore?
not that i have seen
you gotta get them to dislike the aggressors if its not part of their default stance against a faction.
did this once when i was carrying home at citizen and holy empire attacked me. i was close to brink and the guards came out and helped for once.
Just cause a faction really likes you doesn't mean they will come to your aid.

I have never had the police protect me unless i worked hard at tricking them into fights. after that they will come and help for ever after. you can get the city guards to do the same once the police are fighting. cause they will come to protect the police.
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Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:15 pm

Hatsune_Neko wrote:
killerx243 wrote:Does not being the aggressor not get the police to help you fight them off anymore?
not that i have seen
you gotta get them to dislike the aggressors if its not part of their default stance against a faction.
did this once when i was carrying home at citizen and holy empire attacked me. i was close to brink and the guards came out and helped for once.
Just cause a faction really likes you doesn't mean they will come to your aid.

I have never had the police protect me unless i worked hard at tricking them into fights. after that they will come and help for ever after. you can get the city guards to do the same once the police are fighting. cause they will come to protect the police.
Was there something specific you were doing? Was the person rescuing the citizen unarmed?

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Fri Sep 06, 2013 12:35 am

i was carrying one of the police to dump into there own bed. also did it with another of the deadcats gate guards when i was attacked.
i had also had them running deep into the city.
its kinda hard to get done cause neither one goes down very often and usually not when the holy empire is around either.
so tricky one to repeat.
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philthymcnasty
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Wed Sep 11, 2013 4:16 am

Today, outside port south, I was assisted by a samurai lord fighting off the holy empire. Now united cities and the holy empire are at -8 diplomacy.

My new evil goal is to get all the other factions allied to me, and against the holy empire. I want to see an in game war.

One thing to note, my united cities diplomacy was at 100(maybe over, I still give the police first aid), and when the samurai was helping me out, his status read "dealing with troublemakers". The holy empire started the attack.

I will keep you guys posted if diplomatic relations between the two improve or get worse.

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Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:18 pm

Hatsune_Neko wrote:i was carrying one of the police to dump into there own bed. also did it with another of the deadcats gate guards when i was attacked.
i had also had them running deep into the city.
its kinda hard to get done cause neither one goes down very often and usually not when the holy empire is around either.
so tricky one to repeat.
Were your people armed when they were carrying the guard? I think it could be related to either they were punishing the aggressor, or the fact you were holding a police officer which makes the other police come to his aid.

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Wed Sep 11, 2013 8:34 pm

killerx243 wrote:
Hatsune_Neko wrote:i was carrying one of the police to dump into there own bed. also did it with another of the deadcats gate guards when i was attacked.
i had also had them running deep into the city.
its kinda hard to get done cause neither one goes down very often and usually not when the holy empire is around either.
so tricky one to repeat.
Were your people armed when they were carrying the guard? I think it could be related to either they were punishing the aggressor, or the fact you were holding a police officer which makes the other police come to his aid.
i was armed but was running to a point i had designated so never stopped to fight.
I did take some hits even so cause i wasn't that strong at the time.
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Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:47 am

While it does seem kind of random, I tend to be able to get them to help by running up to the police while being attacked and un-equipping my weapon then re-equipping it. It seems to "restart" the battle when my guy goes to defend himself and the police have (so far) always come to help.

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Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:32 am

philthymcnasty wrote:...

I will keep you guys posted if diplomatic relations between the two improve or get worse.

I'm curious if you have any results to share yet. I've been thinking about tinkering with this a bit further as well. Just last night I was trying to test something and Brink was just flat out sacked by some Imperial Samurai. (awesome btw, flattened my newbie squad twice and every mob in the city except foreign traders. Had to use the bullet proof bed trick just to stay alive while the guards healed. Even then they hung around handing out beatdowns for what seemed like days before I was finally able to swipe enough weapons from them to render the attackers unviable.)

I used the police trick to get them bent to begin with but that was days before the attack, maybe I just missed a police engagement prior to getting hit myself during the raid. A few days later, United Cities and the Imperials are in bed again, so relations aren't permanantly negative yet in my game.

I wish we could still see pertinent diplomacy on an enemy's tab. (or our own for that matter)

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