The topper?

Discussion of gameplay issues and experiences, game balance and suggestions for tweaks and modification of the existing systems.
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djfabiokk
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:07 pm

well i have a question, i bought a topper for my main guy, and it says that is a katana class, but it equips in the 2h, is this weapon a heavy and slow one? i never tried to kill someone with it, not yet.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:09 pm

It is katana class so it uses katana skill. But it is a slightly heavier weapon. A nice mix between a lighter katana and a sabre class weapon.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:13 pm

Blxz wrote:It is katana class so it uses katana skill. But it is a slightly heavier weapon. A nice mix between a lighter katana and a sabre class weapon.
So , do you recommend it ? or i should just go for 1h katanas.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:22 pm

Not to bounce in uninvited.

But personally, I recommend that you only use toppers if you have enough men with the katanas 1h.
They're quite the hitters though.
It is one of the better heavy weapons in the game so far, I prefer ringers, katanas, and the topper in my group.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:23 pm

Diruk wrote:Not to bounce in uninvited.

But personally, I recommend that you only use toppers if you have enough men with the katanas 1h.
They're quite the hitters though.
im playing the demo so i just have 2 dudes. 2 very shitty ones.

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Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:29 pm

=.='

Well, I would advise you to use the katans for dex, ringers for def, and then probably the toppers.
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Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:29 pm

There are also two handed katanas. Which are good as well. Both two handed katana's and toppers are nice in case you get an arm chopped off you can draw a single handed katana to fight with and still use your weapon score.
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Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:02 am

Scotterius wrote:There are also two handed katanas. Which are good as well. Both two handed katana's and toppers are nice in case you get an arm chopped off you can draw a single handed katana to fight with and still use your weapon score.
Yeah, what scotterius said. Use your 2 weapon slots. Stick your bigger, more powerful weapon in the main bigger slot but you can carry a backup weapon in the smaller, secondary slot.

I quite like toppers but in the end you can find/buy very finely crafted katana's that are even better in damage AND lighter in weight....but that is top end equipment and hard to get. Stick with toppers for early mid game if you can get them.
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Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:58 am

Blxz wrote:
Scotterius wrote:There are also two handed katanas. Which are good as well. Both two handed katana's and toppers are nice in case you get an arm chopped off you can draw a single handed katana to fight with and still use your weapon score.
Yeah, what scotterius said. Use your 2 weapon slots. Stick your bigger, more powerful weapon in the main bigger slot but you can carry a backup weapon in the smaller, secondary slot.

I quite like toppers but in the end you can find/buy very finely crafted katana's that are even better in damage AND lighter in weight....but that is top end equipment and hard to get. Stick with toppers for early mid game if you can get them.
well i think i got the best katana in the game, it took al my moneeeh but is worth it, it oes 1.2 cutting damage.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:43 am

Found a 1.1 dmg sword on a sand ninja, needles to say that want straight to my leader :D

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:17 am

My katana does 2.4 damage :P.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 8:25 am

Kamos wrote:My katana does 2.4 damage :P.
Where did you find that? I have only been able to find a handful of 1.2 cut damage single handers and 1 topper that has slightly better stats than that(which went to the leader of my 'seven samurai').

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:09 am

Had to buy it. Damned pricey at that.

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:44 am

Kamos wrote:My katana does 2.4 damage :P.
Better than me. My hermit swordsmaster only has a 2. but then again, a guy like that only needs a 2. :mrgreen:

I am so jealous =(
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Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:48 pm

Kamos wrote:Had to buy it. Damned pricey at that.
do you know if the price changes? and in what town? i need that katana :o

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Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:52 pm

Inventory and store prices are randomly generated at the start then after that the stores randomize again after a little while.
I'm thinking it was at least 13K or more from Clownsteady when I got it, probably more. Besides that's nothing my second best guy has a Sabre that does 2.6 Cutting 0.5 Blunt though he isn't as skilled as my main.

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Fri Sep 07, 2012 10:09 am

Haven't seen an Edge Walker brand in ages but looking at mine right now.
Edge Walkers:
Katana Extended - Value 30K
Horse Chopper - Value 40K
So yeah...

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Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:03 pm

For the time being, there's really no use in equipping lesser 1h weapons, since the 2h ones (like the topper) offer better reach and damage. Maybe if later a 2- weapon- fighting tecnique or backstabbing with short quick weapons is implemented the one handed small ones will be worth it.

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Tue Sep 11, 2012 4:38 pm

guspav wrote:For the time being, there's really no use in equipping lesser 1h weapons, since the 2h ones (like the topper) offer better reach and damage. Maybe if later a 2- weapon- fighting tecnique or backstabbing with short quick weapons is implemented the one handed small ones will be worth it.
Actually the best thing to do is equip your guys with 1h katanas to level up the dex, and when you got like 20 dex you equip them with 2h, so they can have damage, reach and a fast attack speed.

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Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:25 pm

Also you can't use 2h weapons if one hand is broken/disabled.
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